Avodah Zarah, Daf Nun Vav, Part 2

 

Introduction

In yesterday s section, R. Akiva stated that the liquid pressed from the grapes becomes wine only once it has been skimmed. The question asked today is whether this is the skimming that occurs in the vat or later in the cask. As a reminder, this is relevant both to the issue of when something becomes liable for tithes and also when it becomes subject to becoming yayin nesekh.

 

איבעיא להו קיפוי דבור או קיפוי דחבית

ת"ש דתניא יין משיקפה אע"פ שקפה קולט מן הגת העליונה ומן הצינור ושותה

ש"מ קיפוי דבור קאמרינן ש"מ

 

The question was asked: Does this mean skimming [of the wine] while it is in the vat or when it is in the cask?

Come and hear! For we have learned: [It is to be considered] wine when it is skimmed; and although he has skimmed it, he may draw some off from the upper press and from the pipe and drink it.

Learn from this that we mean the skimming while it is in the vat. Conclude from this.

 

The baraita states that even though he has skimmed the waste off of the wine that it is in the vat, he may still drink untithed liquid that comes from the press, which is above the vat. Clearly this baraita considers the skimming that occurs in the vat to be the skimming that makes it liable for tithes and subject to yayin nesekh.