Sukkah, Daf Lammed Het, Part 6

 

Introduction

The final section of this week’s daf contains a few more instructions that Rava gives concerning prayer.

 

אמר רבא: לא לימא איניש ברוך הבא והדר בשם ה’ אלא ברוך הבא בשם ה’ בהדדי (אמר ליה רב ספרא:משה שפיר קאמרת? אלא, התם והכא אסוקי מילתא היא, ולית לן בה).

 

 

Rava said: One should not say "Blessed be he that comes" and then [pause and] say "In the name of the Lord. Rather he should say Blessed be he that comes in the name of the Lord together.

R. Safra said to him, Moses! Do you speak right? The fact is that both here and there, it is the conclusion of the clause and the pause does not matter.

 

Rava says one shouldn’t split up the verse "Blessed by he that comes in the name of the Lord" which is part of Hallel. Rashi explains that disconnecting "in the name of the Lord" makes it unclear what it refers to.

R. Safra replies that this really isn’t so clear and therefore there is no problem splitting the verse up.

 

אמר רבא: לא לימא איניש יהא שמיה רבא והדר מברך, אלא יהא שמיה רבא מברך בהדדי.

אמר ליה רב ספרא: משה, שפיר קאמרת? אלא: התם והכא אסוקי מילתא הוא, ולית לן בה.

 

Rava said: One should not say: "Let His great name" and then say "be blessed." Rather he should say, "Let His great name be blessed R. Safra said to him: Moses! Do you speak right? The fact is that both here and there, it is the conclusion of the clause and the pause does not matter.

 

Rava says the same thing about the phrase that is today recited in the middle of the kaddish (the kaddish as we know it did not exist during the talmudic period).

Again, R. Safra says that it is not a problem because it is clear that the second half is just the conclusion of the first.